Tatvadarshi Sant Rampal Ji Unmasked ISKCON as per Bhagavad Gita

Tatvadarshi Sant Rampal Ji Unmasked ISKCON as per Bhagavad Gita

Lord Shri Krishna is the revered deity of the followers of ISKCON who believe Shri Krishna to be the protagonist of the infinite universe, Guru of the whole world and the complete incarnation. They say “Krishnastu Swayam Bhagwan” Shri Krishan is the Almighty, the highest form of God, the element is God, God is everything, Shree Krishan is everything, he is the ultimate source, he is the eternal element. To the information of devotees let us clarify that the soul since the day has been separated from Almighty is in search of God, in search of peace and won’t sit quiet till it attains God hence it easily gets carried and believe ignorant saints/sages/preachers who misled and tell to worship any demigod.

The followers of Lord Shri Krishna, it means devotees of ISKCON are also among those misled naïve souls who believe him to be the supreme God which is the result of the lack of true spiritual knowledge of their teachers/gurus who have portrayed Shri Krishna in such a way. Such so-called gurus do not know the ABC of holy

scriptures and have completely ignored facts mentioned in holy scriptures like pious Vedas and Shrimad Bhagavad Gita which tell Supreme God is in human form. He is self-proclaimed and resides in the ultimate abode, the eternal world located at a distance of sixteen Sankh Kose from this deceased world. He is the provider of emancipation.

Based on facts from the holy scriptures this article aims to prove who is Supreme God. According to the ideology of ISKCON whether Lord Krishna is worshipable and Supreme God or is it some other Supreme power which is unknown to devotee society to date.

The following will be discussed supported by relevant shreds of evidence from authentic scriptures.

First, let us know briefly about ISKCON.

  • All About ISKCON
  • ISKCON is Ignorant About Three Gods Mentioned in Pious Bhagavad Gita
  • ISKCON is Ignorant About Who is Brahm-Kaal/Kshar Purush?
  • Shree Krishan was Lord Vishnu’s Incarnation
  • Shri Krishna Sought Blessings from Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati
  • ISKCON Misled on Who spoke Shrimad Bhagavad Gita’s Knowledge?
  • Lord Krishna did Not Know the Giver of Gita’s Knowledge During Mahabharata
  • Evidence in Mahabharata - Krishna is Not Knowledge Giver of Gita
  • The Difference in Huge Form Between Brahm Kaal V/S Shri Krishna
  • Chanting of ‘Hare Krishna’ Mantra of ISKCON is Arbitrary
  • ISKCON does not Know About the Mantra of Brahm Kaal
  • Who is Supreme God as per Shrimad Bhagavad Gita?
  • ISKCON does not Know What is the Mantra to Attain Supreme God?
  • ISKCON does not Know Enlightened Saint Will Tell Mantra of Supreme God
  • Who is Supreme God as per All Holy Scriptures?
  • ISKCON is Ignorant About Eternal World Satlok

All About ISKCON

ISKCON is a religious organization established in 1969 by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada with branches located in 850 temples, eco-villages and centres worldwide with affiliation to Gaudiya Vaishnavism founded by saint Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. The main purpose of the formation of ISKCON was to spread Bhakti Yoga practices for their loving Lord Krishna whom they believe to be the supreme God  The core belief of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness –ISKCON also known as the Hare Krishna movement is based on the holy Shrimad Bhagavad Gita and Bhagavad Purana.

The greatest Maha Mantra of ISKCON is a recitation of the ‘Hare Krishna’ mantra since they believe every aspect of the incarnation of Lord Krishna is an inspiration and they express their devotion by performing ‘Kirtan’, dancing and singing and repeatedly chanting the Mahamantra of Krishna with rosary (of tulsi wood given at the initiation to an ISKCON devotee) at least 16 rounds of 108 beads each every day and believe it is the only way to attain salvation.

Another important ISKCON practice is idol worship of Shri Krishna hence devotees perform Arati accompanied by devotional songs called ‘bhajans’ and then they eat sanctified offered food.

A detailed description of ISKCON is well known to the masses available in the form of literature etc. This article aims to prove that these Krishna’s devotees, these fake teachers and worshippers of

Krishna Ji are confusing society. They claim themselves to be the master of Gita’s knowledge whereas the fact is they have zero knowledge about Bhagavad Gita. This straightforward statement might not be liked by the devotees of Lord Krishna initially but with the facts provided in this writing up the followers of Lord Krishna will be bound to accept the truth that Shri Krishna is not supreme God and that they were simply misled by ignorant preachers over a decade. The devotees of ISKCON will bite their fingers after knowing the truth mentioned in the pious Shrimad Bhagavad Gita.

The very first thing to know in the path of spirituality to devotees of ISKCON is the set up of Gods in this universe. How was the universe created? ISKCON is ignorant about three Gods mentioned in Bhagavat Gita.

Let us proceed and explore the truth mentioned in Bhagavad Gita regarding - Who is Supreme God?

ISKCON is Ignorant About Three Gods mentioned in Pious Bhagavad Gita

Spiritual knowledge has been so entangled that it is becoming very difficult to untangle. Some devotees, some saints, and teachers tell Shree Krishan Ji to be the protagonist of infinite universes, the creator of universes, as a complete God. Pious souls! To reach any conclusion we must make some base. Now those who tell Shree Krishan Ji to be Almighty, God of all, they, it seems, have not read the holy scriptures and are telling folklore. Verses from Srimad Bhagavad Gita prove that followers of ISKCON are ignorant about the three Gods mentioned in Pious Gita.

Gita Chapter 15 Verse 1-4 and 16-17 mention the upside-down hanging world-like tree with roots above and branches below that represents three Gods. The roots of this tree indicate the complete God ie. Param Akshar Purush/Supreme God (Evidence also in Chapter 8 Verse 1-3), the visible portion which is above the ground is a tree. Its heavy trunk represents Akshar Purush ie. ParBrahm. The bigger branch is the Kshar Purush ie. Brahm-Kaal. Three smaller branches represent his three sons Rajgun-Brahma, Satgun-Vishnu, and Tamgun-Shiva and the leaves consider them the people of the world.

Param Akshar Purush is immortal in reality, He is the complete God, He nurtures everyone, master of all, the original source of the lineage is Param Akshar Brahm.

Had ISKCON who follow Gita would have known this fact they would have never claimed Lord Krishna to be the Supreme God. This proves they are ignorant about- Who is Supreme God?

Proceeding, let us give a brief about the third God, which means Brahm-Kaal also known as Kshar Purush which will help us understand better Who is Supreme God-Lord Shri Krishna or someone else.

ISKCON is Ignorant About Who is Brahm-Kaal/Kshar Purush?

Brahm Kaal/Kshar Purush is the owner of twenty-one universes where we all souls presently reside. Kaal/ Akshar Purush is the father of Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh and husband of Goddess Durga/Prakriti. In Gita Chapter 14 Verse 3 and 4 he says ‘Prakriti is my Yoni (womb) and I (Kaal) am the seed giving father, as a result, all living beings in all species are produced. Durga is the mother of Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh. In Verse 5 he tells Arjun that ‘his three sons Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva means three Gunas born of Prakriti bind the eternal soul to the body means these three are obstacles to complete liberation of the immortal soul’.

In Chapter 10 Verse 2 he is saying ‘neither these deities know nor these sages are familiar about my creation and not even these saints because all these Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh fall under deity category. All these have originated from me only.

Note- Brahm Kaal makes numerous forms with his word power. Goddess Durga is his wife therefore he says in this Verse that he does not take birth from Durga like Shri Krishna etc.

In Chapter 11 Verse 21 Arjun says ‘Oh God! You are even eating Gods, you are even eating these sages, you are eating these groups of saints who are praising you by reciting Veda Mantras and are praying to you for their welfare but you are eating them.

In Shrimad Bhagavad Gita Chapter 2 Verse 7 Arjun is saying that ‘I am in your refuge and your disciple. You tell me correct knowledge; my mind is not working. I am unable to recognize you.

Then Kaal introduces himself in Gita Chapter 11 Verse 32 during the Mahabharata war that ‘Arjun!, I am the enlarged Kaal, the destroyer of the whole world. I have appeared now to destroy everyone. He is weird and dangerous to look at, he has 1000 heads, 1K arms, 1K legs, and 1K eyes  (evidence Rigveda Mandal 10-Sukt 90-Mantra 1). Seeing his huge form on the battlefield Arjun feared and got confused, therefore, in Gita Chapter 11 Verse 46 he says ‘I want to see you as before, adorned with a crown and holding a mace and disc in hand. Oh, Universal form! You appear in that same Chaturbhuj (four-armed) form.

Note:- Arjun was already in Shree Krishna Ji’s refuge.

Brahm Kaal resides in Brahmlok and remains unmanifested In Gita Chapter 11 Verse 48 and 53 he tells Arjun that ‘he can neither be seen by the study of Vedas, nor by Yagyas, nor by charity nor by rituals and not even by severe austerity. No one apart from you has seen my original form’.

In Gita Chapter 7 Verse 25 Kaal tells Arjun, ‘I remain hidden with my (Yogmaya) powers and do not appear before anyone therefore this ignorant world does not know my eternal character meaning they consider me to have come in incarnation form’.

All 21 universes including Brahmlok are mortal and are in recurrence evidence Chapter 8 Verse 16. Brahm-Kaal, Goddess Durga, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva and other demigods are in the cycle of Birth and death. This Kaal in Gita Chapter 4 Verse 5 and 9 and Chapter 2 Verse 12 has made clear that Arjun, 'You and I have had several births, you do not know I know. My births and deeds are superhuman. We were there earlier as well and will be beyond this’.

In Chapter 7 Verse 12 he says ‘emotions arising from Satogun means preservation from Vishnu, and from Rajogun Brahma ie. creation, from Tamogun Shiva ie. destruction, consider all these emotions happening from me only’. Because Kaal, their father, has to eat one lakh human bodies every day. For that, he has equipped his three sons with one power each. He himself remains far from them. He never comes in front of anyone.

In Verse 13 he says ‘the act of qualities Satvik, Rajas, and Tamas, with these three types of qualities this whole world is getting fascinated. Beyond these three qualities Rajgun-Brahma, Satgun-Vishnu, and Tamgun-Shiv do not know me. They are confined to these three only’.

In Verse 14 he says that my ‘trigun maya maya’ is incurable. This trap was created by Rajgun Brahma, Satgun Vishnu, and Tamogun Shiv Ji and has been said to be very dangerous, souls cannot come out of my trap. In Verse 15 he has done wonders he says ‘By these powers those whose wisdom has been stolen; those who are not ready to listen above these Brahma, Vishnu, Mahesh have demonic nature, are lowest amongst men, they are evil-doers, foolish people, they do not even worship me. They are ready to die and kill.

Important:- Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, are the sons of Brahm Kaal and Goddess Durga and everyone residing in the 21 universes of Brahm Kaal is mortal. The evidence for the same is also found in pious Devi Purana, Shiv Purana, Vishnu Purana and Markandeya Purana.

In Gita Chapter no 4 Verse no 25 till 31, the knowledge giver of Gita has told that ‘some worship deities, some perform sacrifices, some read holy scriptures, some perform non-violence like covering mouth and walking barefoot. All such practitioners consider their religious practices as destroyers of sins and consider them as correct. If they come to know these do not destroy their sins, they cannot provide salvation, they will abandon it immediately. But whosoever is performing whichever practice, they do it considering that as superior, as good’. They are all under my trap.

ISKCON is unaware of the hierarchy of Gods in this universe and misled devotees by portraying Lord Krishna to be the supreme God. They do accept that Shri Krishna was the incarnation of Lord Vishu.

They need to answer when Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva are mortal then how can Shri Krishna who was the incarnation of Vishnu be supreme God? Also, ISKCON believers say all these three Gods worship Shree Krishna. This raises question mark on their spiritual knowledge.

Let us study the evidence for the same from scripture.

Shree Krishan Ji was Lord Vishnu's Incarnation

The devotees of ISKCON say Shri Krishna was Shri Vishnu Ji’s incarnation meaning Shree Vishnu Ji himself appeared on this earth. It is also acceptable to them that Shree Vishnu Ji is Satogun God.

Shri Krishna was Lord Vishnu’s incarnation and Vishnu Ji himself was born from Devki Ji’s womb in Shree Krishan form.

It has been mentioned in Shrimad Bhagwat Sudha Sagar, published from Gita Press Gorakhpur, written by God Ved Vyas, in simple Hindi interpretation of twelve parts including verses, Shukra Sagar,

The printer and publisher is Gita Press Gorakhpur on page 549,

Tenth part, Chapter 3

“When the occasion of God’s birth arrived, the musical instruments of deities started playing on their own. Seated in the hearts of everyone, at that time God Vishnu appeared from Devki’s womb as if a full moon rose with sixteen powers from the east direction."

It is clear that Shree Krishan Ji himself is Shree Vishnu Ji, meaning Shri Vishnu Ji appeared in Shree Krishan form.

Important:- In response to a question asked from ISKCON saint as - Whom do Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh worship? He said, ‘they worship that complete God’. Well! When Vishnu worships the complete God then how can he be the protagonist of infinite universes? How can Krishna be the supreme God?

In Verse 15 of Chapter 7, it is said ‘those whose wisdom has been stolen by those desires, inspired from their nature, following those rules, they worship other Gods. Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh these three qualities come in other deities.

In Chapter 7 Verse 21 it is said ‘Whichever devotee wishes to worship whichever deity with devotion, I steady the faith of that devotee in the same deity. Like, someone worships Vishnu Ji then he appears himself acquiring Vishnu form and says ‘you have my blessings. He blesses them with one or two blessings, and they play with those toys. In Verse 22 it is told ‘then that man worships that deity with commitment and obtains the objects of desires which are given by me through those deities.’

It is told in Gita Ji Chapter 7 Verse 12 till 15 that the worshippers of all three qualities - Rajgun Brahma, Satgun Vishnu, and Tamgun Shiv Ji are in other deities’ categories. The Gita orator tells ‘they have demonic nature, are lowest amongst men, evil-doers who do not even worship me.

ISKCON preaches wrong that Brahma, Vishnu, and Mahesh these three Gods worship Shree Krishna. Readers and devotees must try to find logic in this. When Shri Krishna is the incarnation of Lord

Vishnu then how will these three Gods worship Krishna? This theory of ISKCON is illogical. They talk nonsense. They do not have any knowledge. They are confusing and ruining the whole human society.

Shri Krishna is not an Omniscient and the supreme Lord will be proved from yet another example ahead.

Shri Krishna Sought Blessings from Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati

Evidence from concise Shree Shiv Puran, with pictures, bold published from Gita Press Gorakhpur whose Editor is Hanuman Prasad Poddar, publisher and printer is Geeta Press Gorakhpur, Gobind Bhawan Office, Institute of Kolkata, there is evidence on 560-561 page in ‘Uma Sanhita’

At that time with intention of getting a son on reaching Shree Krishan’s Himavan hill, and meeting with the great sage Upmanyu, Krishna performed worship to make Lord Shiva happy according to the way of worship as told by him. Pleased with his worship Lord Shiva appeared along with Parvati, Kartikeya and Shree Ganesh and by telling the story of Shree Krishan requesting a blessing, Sanant Kumar Ji said ‘upon hearing Shree Krishna’s words God ‘Bhav’, means Shiv Ji, said to him-‘Vasudev! (Vishnu form) Whatever you have desired all that will be accomplished. Saying this the Trident holder Lord Shiva again said ‘Lord of Yadavs! You will have a Samb named a famous powerful son.

Once upon a time, saints had cursed the disastrous Sun that ‘you will be produced in human life, that disastrous Sun will be your son. Apart from this whatever thing, you intend all that you will receive. Sanant Kumar Ji says ‘in this way, Shree Krishan completely satisfied him by various practices and received all blessings from God Shiva.

Subsequently, the devotee daughter, Giriraj’s daughter Parvati, after being pleased with that devotee of Shiva, said to the great sage

``Vasudev, means to Krishan, ‘the ultimate intelligent Vasudevnandan Shree Krishna! I am highly satisfied with you. You can get your blessings/desires fulfilled from me that are impossible on earth.

Shree Krishna said ‘Goddess! If you are satisfied with my true worship and are providing me blessings, then I wish that there should never be any hatred for the Brahmans in my mind. I should always worship and respect them. My mother-father should always remain satisfied with me. Wherever I go I should have a favourable emotion for all creatures in my heart. With your grace, my sainthood should be better.

Pious Souls! After seeing these scriptures with your own eyes, you yourself can conclude what was the situation of Shree Krishan Ji.

Those who call him as Omniscient, supreme Lord, owner of the infinite universes, world Guru are not saints, neither are they spiritual Gurus and if some devotees is continuing on their path and agreeing to them, then he is spoiling his life.

Shri Krishna sought blessings from Lord Shiva and Goddess Parvati. Had he been the supreme God he wouldn’t have to seek blessing from anyone. ISKON is ignorant of this fact and hence believes Shri Krishna to be the supreme God which is a myth.

Moving ahead another misconception of ISKCON will be discussed to prove the fact that ISKCON is misled on - who is the knowledge giver of the Gita?

ISKCON Misled on Who Spoke Shrimad Bhagavad Gita’s Knowledge?

The knowledge of saints of ISKCON regarding who is the knowledge giver of the Gita is rubbish. The whole organization is confused.

In response to the question asked from one of the chiefs of ISKCON as to who spoke Shrimad Bhagavad Gita’s knowledge? He replied – “This needs no thought as to who is the orator of Gita’s knowledge. Only God Shree Krishan spoke Gita he is the orator and great sage Vedvyas has himself accepted this and said -

‘Gita Sugita kartavyaH kimanyeH Shastra vistreH
Ya swayam padmanabhasya mukh paddadwniH sritaH”

Meaning - Make Gita the song of life, why? Because this is a divine declaration from the personified God’s lotus mouth. Sanjay is Gita’s one such character who has divine sight and when he heard Gita’s knowledge from his sixth sense, then in Gita’s concluding verses Sanjay has accepted

‘Yogam Yogeshwarat Krishnat sakshat kathyatH swayam’

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Spiritual knowledge of ISKCON raises question marks.

Answering the same question Yet another Chief of ISKCON replied

‘Gita Sugita kartavya kimanyeH Shastra vistreH’

A beautiful Gita speech came out from God Shree Krishna Padmanabh’s mouth. In the righteous field of Kurukshetra, when the Mahabharata war was going on, God had wanted that this war should not happen and for that, he counselled a lot, but when the war became inevitable then Arjun said – ‘Oh Achyut! take this chariot between both armies. When he saw our close friends, our respected Dronacharya, Kripacharya, Bhishampitamah etc. standing on the battlefield then he said ‘No-No I cannot fight this battle. I will sustain myself by donation, but I cannot raise arms on them on this war field, on these respected people who are on this battlefield.

Then God preached Bhagavad Gita. Then after five thousand years, this went almost extinct, since then A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Shri Prabhupada Ji is spreading the same divine knowledge, this Gita’s knowledge, in the whole world free from his throat. He is providing Gita’s knowledge to the whole world in 100 languages.

This is rubbish knowledge told by the chiefs of ISKCON. They claim they have true knowledge of the Gita whereas the fact is ISKCON is completely ignorant about the truth mentioned in Bhagavad Gita.

Now let us study facts from Gita regarding who is the knowledge giver of Gita? .

Also Read: Is Lord Krishna Really the Supreme God According to Gita? Check Facts

Lord Krishna did Not Know the Giver of Gita’s Knowledge During Mahabharata

Pious Souls! Till now whoever you ask as to who spoke Shree Gita Ji’s knowledg? Immediately they say, instantly they say, Shree Krishna Ji spoke. There is no second opinion. They are absolutely ignorant, they do not know anything.

In Gita Ji chapter no 7 Verse no 24 and 25, Brahm Kaal says that ‘I remain hidden with my Yogmaya and my birth and deeds are superhuman’. By entering in someone else he does what he wants to do and does not appear himself in front of anyone in his original form. He says I might appear in four-armed form also as a favour indeed for some, but not with any Mantras, austerity, or any charity. This means I do not appear for goodness, I might manifest to some, to an exclusive devotee on my will.

Let us clarify how Kaal enters someone’s body. How are his deeds superhuman?

Shree Krishan Ji did not want the Mahabharata battle to be fought and he went thrice as a peace messenger. He tried to make Kauravas and Pandavas understand that they should not fight. You do distribution of rules with some compromise, by doing

plus-minus. This throne will remain here. If there will be a war you all will die, then who will rule? But they did not agree and the battle’s trumpet blew. The army was standing face-to-face. Arjun looked in front, that our uncles, brothers, cousins and their children who are close to his heart, whom they held to their chests. They had an affection for each other, with the children of their family. The same children are standing with weapons in hand and are ready to kill. Then a righteous feeling aroused in Arjun’s mind, for whom to fight? Should we rule by killing our uncles, and brothers? No one is low like us. He was filled with guilt. He did not want war.

At that time this Kaal entered Shree Krishna Ji’s body to get his evil intentions fulfilled and he suppressed Shree Krishna Ji’s soul and gave the knowledge of Gita, (he is also the knowledge giver of holy Vedas) and showed his huge form as a trick to start the battle, seeing which a warrior-like Arjun also shivered. Fearful Shree Arjun accepted war thinking that if I will not fight the battle, Kaal wants war and if he will show his huge form again then I will have a heart attack. Therefore, thinking it to be the wish of Brahm, God Kaal, he agreed to fight.

Kaal’s deeds are superhuman and are also proved in Vishnu Purana. He enters in the body of some soul and does destruction as he did to the Princely sage Shasad’s son named Purunjay (evidence Shree Vishnu Puran, fourth part Chapter no.2 on page no 233, Verse no 22 till 26). Also, Brahm-Kaal killed Yuvnaashvar’s son, Maandhata’s son named Purukuts. He killed Gandharvas by entering inside him. (evidence on 242nd page. Fourth part Chapter no.3. Shree Vishnu Puran on 242nd page, Chapter 3).

Similarly, this Kaal entered Shree Krishan Ji (evidence in Gita Chapter no 8 Verse no 13) and made the war happen, Krishan Ji was refusing war earlier. He is the knowledge giver of the Gita.

This fact proves that not Shri Krishna but Brahm Kaal is the knowledge giver of the Gita about which ISKCON is unaware hence preaching wrong and misleading innocent devotees.

Let us study another fact from Mahabharata which proves Krishna was not the orator of the Gita about which ISKCON is ignorant.

Evidence in Mahabharata -  Krishna Ji was Not Knowledge Giver of Gita

Another fact mentioned in Mahabharata also proves the same when Shri Krishna accepts that he has forgotten what knowledge he gave at the time of war. Let us study.

Reference:- Concise Mahabharat second part published from Gita Press, Gorakhpur. Ved Vyas Ji is its writer, page 667, and the editor is Jaidayal Goenka (who is also the translator of Gita Ji). Editor and modifier Gita Press, Gorakhpur published and printed from Gita Press Gorakhpur.

Dialogue of Shree Krishna with Arjun, great sage and Kashyap.

Janmayjay asked ‘Brahman, after the destruction of enemies, at that time sage Shree Krishan and Arjun were seated in the house and were conversing, at that time what discussion happened amongst them?

Vaishampayan Ji said ‘King! Along with Shree Krishan, when Arjun got complete authority over the region then they started happily living in the divine palace. One day, surrounded by their relatives, both the friends were roaming and reached a part of the assembly hall that was as beautiful as heaven. The son of Pandav, Arjun, was very happy living with Shree Krishan.

Looking at that delightful audience he said to God ‘Devkinandan! At the time of the war, I gained knowledge about your greatness and saw your divine appearance. But Keshav! The knowledge which you have provided earlier out of affection, all that, I have forgotten it due to the fault of memory meaning Arjun says ‘I have now forgotten Gita’s knowledge that was told during the wartime. Now my mind becomes anxious again and again to listen to those subjects hence please narrate to me - Shrimad Bhagavad Gita’s knowledge again. I want to listen. You will go to Dwarka soon, therefore, please tell me all that knowledge again’.

Note:- Arjun is saying to God Shree Krishan Ji ‘God, I have forgotten that Gita Ji’s knowledge which you had narrated during the wartime, please narrate the same knowledge to me again. It is my eager desire to hear.

What does Shree Krishan Ji say?

Vaishampayan Ji says ‘On hearing these words of Arjun, superior amongst the speakers, the stunning God Shree Krishan hugged him and replied in this way.

Shree Krishan Ji said “Arjun! At that time, I had told you a highly confidential subject, regarding my eternal superior divine form and I had also described all regions. But due to your carelessness, you do not remember all that preaching, I am highly upset knowing this.

Remembering all that completely does not seem possible now.

Son of Pandav! You definitely are very faithless, your memory does not seem to be sharp. It is difficult for me to repeat the same preaching now because at that time I had described the elements of God by being connected with God.

Important - Shree Krishan Ji is scolding Arjun, that you are devotion less, your memory does not seem good, why did you not remember Gita Ji’s knowledge? And is himself saying that ‘I cannot completely remember all that now. Isn’t this an excuse?

With this, it is proved that Shree Krishan Ji does not know the ABC of what was spoken in Gita Ji. He is not the knowledge giver of the Gita. Truth is it was Brahm Kaal who spoke Gita.

This proves ISKCON is completely misled as to Who is the orator of Gita’s knowledge and claims they have studied Gita thoroughly.

Another truth being ignored by ISKCON will be discussed ahead to prove the same which will bind ISKCON to accept the fact that Brahm Kaal and Lord Krishna are two separate entities and Krishna is not the knowledge giver of the Gita.

Read Also: Who Delivered the Knowledge of Shrimad Bhagavad Gita? Krishna or Kaal

The Difference in Huge Form Between Brahm Kaal V/S Shri Krishna

In Mahabharata, there is evidence that Shree Krishan Ji showed his huge form in the assembly of Kauravas. Concise Mahabharat, the first part, published from Gita Press, Gorakhpur, modifier and editor is Jaidayal Goenka on pages 544 and 545. In ‘Udhyogparv’.

Duryodhan’s conspiracy, God Krishna’s vision of visions and departure from Kauravas assembly after showing huge form.

After this Vidur Ji said ‘Duryodhan! You listen to me. See! Even Narkasur tried to imprison Shree Krishan but he could not do that even with all the demons. Then how are you showing the courage to seize him by force? At the end of Vidur Ji’s statement, God Shree Krishan Ji said ‘Duryodhan! Due to ignorance, if you believe that I am alone and you want to capture me forcefully, then remember, all Pandavas and Vrishni and Yadavs are here; only Aditya, Rudra, Vasu and the clan of all great sages are present here. Saying this, the killer of enemies, Shree Krishan laughed loudly. Then immediately radiant deities started appearing from his entire body. On his forehead was Brahma, on his chest part Rudra, on the arms Lokpal and in the mouth was the fire God. Aditya, Sadhya, Vasu, Ashwani Kumar etc. All these seemed integral to his body. All emperors closed their eyes out of fear of seeing this frightful huge form of Shree Krishna.

Only Dronacharya, Bhishma, Vidur Sanjay and saints could see his appearance because God provided them with divine sight.

Pious Souls! Till now you ask whoever spoke Shree Gita Ji’s knowledge, immediately they say, instantly they say, Shree Krishna Ji spoke. There are no two opinions. They are absolutely ignorant, they do not know anything. Gita Ji Chapter no.11 Verse no. 47-48, had Shree Krishan Ji speaking Gita then he would not have said these words that - Arjun! This is my actual huge form, no one had ever seen this before you and even later with any sacrifice, tenacity, donation or any activity, this cannot be seen. Neither by the method mentioned in Ved, this can be seen.

Hence proved the huge form shown in Gita Chapter 11 Verse 32 was of Brahm Kaal other than Krishna shown in the assembly of Kauravas. Hence proved, that Shree Krishan Ji did not speak Gita’s knowledge, this Kaal had spoken.

This proves ISKCON is absolutely unaware of who gave Gita’s knowledge.

Now let us proceed and study facts mentioned in the Gita about the Supreme God.

First, let us see whether mantras provided by ISKCON are authentic or not.

Chanting of 'Hare Krishna' Mantra of ISKCON is Arbitrary

ISKCON the worshippers of Shree Krishan Ji, all pious souls from the pious Hindu religion consider Gita Ji as true but chant mantras like ‘Hare Krishna Hare Krishna  Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare, Radhey Radhey Shyam Mila de, Om Namah Shivay, Om Bhagwatey VasudevayH NamaH, Evam NamaH', mantra aiming to attain salvation. They believe through these mantras, one can achieve deep concentration and then salvation. If we chant this mantra with determination then our mind will be stable and when our mind will reach a deep consciousness state, in the state of Krishna’s remembrance, wandering with Krishna, worshipping Krishna, that will bind us in Krishna’s love.

In Gita Ji Chapter no.16 Verse 23 it is written that ‘Those who abandon holy scriptures and do arbitrary practices, they do not get any prosperity, neither do they get salvation or any accomplishments, means useless.’

Immediately in Gita Ji Chapter no.16 verse 24, it is stated – ‘Arjun with this, only holy scriptures can guide you on what is right and what is wrong. Do not trust any folklore. Whatever is written in our holy scriptures that way of worship is correct, is final.

Is this mantra of ISKCON mentioned anywhere in Gita Ji? Then why do ISKCON preaches wrong? Gita is the law of God - we do not have to follow any instructions apart from Gita Ji and Vedas. In case we agree with others and worship against the law of God then that worship is against the knowledge of scriptures, it is arbitrary worship. Till date, we did not get the correct knowledge about God.

In Gita Ji Chapter 4 Verse 32 it is said these religious sacrifices, which mean a detailed description of the rituals, are mentioned in Sacchidanandghan Brahm’s speech, and after understanding that knowledge you will be free from bondages of deeds forever. Now in chapter 4 verse 33, it is said ‘Compared to donation like blindly getting a temple built somewhere, doing religious donations somewhere, arranging community meals, distributing blankets somewhere; it is advised, instead of that blind donation ritual knowledge is superior, that knowledge ritual is preferable, Knowledge ritual means discourses, enlightened saint’s preaching should listen. After that, you will get benefits by duly practising and donating according to his information. Otherwise, there will be no benefit with arbitrary conduct.

It is the advice to ISKCON that they must practice according to scriptures rather than performing arbitrary worship.

Then which mantra should be chanted to attain God? Let us study.

ISKCON does not Know About the Mantra of Brahm Kaal

In Gita Ji Chapter 8 Verse 13 mantra of Brahm Kaal has been told

Om ityekakṣharam brahm vyaharan maam anusmaran Yaḥ prayaati tyajan dehaṁ sa yaati paramaam gatim

In Gita Ji Chapter 8 Verses no 5 and 7 the knowledge giver of Gita talks about his own worship that does my meditation, worships me and you will attain me. Fight and if you want to remain in my refuge then ‘OM’ is my mantra nothing else.

The knowledge giver of Gita in Gita Ji Chapter 7 Verse 18 is speaking in Shree Krishan’s body and is himself saying that his worship is‘Anutmam’, means inferior, an absolute waste because he says ‘my and my seeker’s birth and death will remain, these good souls who worship me are sincere, but they remain dependent on poor benefits from me. Seekers can reach Brahmlok by chanting my ‘OM’ mantra but creatures attaining Brahmlok are in recurrence means they again come back in birth and death. They are not liberated

Why is Brahm’s Worship Inferior?

Because the knowledge giver of Gita is himself saying in Chapter 4 Verse 5 and 9, Chapter 2 Verse 12, Chapter 10 Verse 2 ‘Arjun! You and I have had several births. You do not know I know so with this it is proved that birth and death happen of Brahm and all creatures residing in his 21 universes. His world is mortal hence, worshippers are also unhappy as there is no sorrow like birth and death.

In Chapter 8 Verses 5 & 7 the knowledge giver of Gita says that ‘Worship me and you will obtain me, but you will have to fight. This means there is no peace here. There can never be peace with ‘OM’. By chanting the ‘OM’ mantra birth and death will always remain and you will have to fight as well.

ISKCON is ignorant of this fact and hence preaches wrong and misled innocent devotees by telling them to chant a useless mantra like ‘Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare which holds no evidence in any holy scripture, Their practice is arbitrary, hence useless.

This concludes that ‘OM’ is the mantra of Kaal which is not the provider of salvation.

ISKCON must know that Pious Gita tells the mantra of Supreme God chanting which souls attain emancipation.

Who is Supreme God as per Shrimad Bhagavad Gita?

ISKCON believes ‘Apart from Krishan there is no other God. He is saying ‘hrideysho Arjun Tishthatee’- that divine, that God, that Shri Krishan, I am seated in your heart; where do you wander? Where do you see?

Evidence in Gita says Supreme God is other than the knowledge giver of Gita. Let's check the facts

In Chapter 2 Verse 12 Brahm Kaal is telling himself to be mortal. So, there is some other God about whom Brahm Kaal is telling that he should be worshipped and an enlightened saint will tell his mantra.

In Gita Chapter 2 Verse 17 it is said that ‘know that indestructible whom no one can kill and who has created the whole universe, who is the creator of all.

Gita Chapter 4 Verse 32 tells ‘Know about the various types of scripture-based religious activities, Yagyas performed from ‘Brahmane Mukhey’ means speech uttered from the lotus mouth of Sacchidanandghan Brahm means Supreme God which is explained in Suksham Ved by which soul gets liberated.

In Gita Chapter 8 Verse 1 Arjun asked ‘God, what you said in Gita Ji Chapter no.7 Verse no.29 that those who have found an enlightened saint have understood the entire spiritual knowledge, is familiar with Karma and familiar with that Tat Brahm or Supreme God, then he makes effort to get liberated from old age and death, for the salvation only. He does not demand anything in this world. He knows - that Tat Brahm.

So, in Gita Chapter 8 Verse 1 Arjun asked, ‘Kim Tat Brahm?’ Who is that ‘Tat Brahm? Knowing whom the seeker does not demand anything. He only desires salvation from birth and death. So, who is Tat Brahm? Now the knowledge giver of Gita answers it in Chapter 8 Verse 3 that he is Param Akshar Brahm/Supreme God. He is different from the knowledge giver of the Gita.

In Gita Chapter 15 Verse 3,4 it is said that ‘when the enlightened saint is found, and the seeker has received true spiritual knowledge from that spiritual leader then by cutting this complicated puzzle of ignorance, by chopping from this weapon of true spiritual knowledge, means by understanding that God’s ultimate abode should be searched, going where this soul never comes back to this world. This means after worshipping that complete God, the long disease of birth and death will finish forever by going there.

In Chapter 18 Verse 46 it is said ‘the God from whom all the living beings have originated and from whom this whole world has pervaded, by worshipping that God through the performance of one’s natural activities, a man attains supreme spiritual success’.

In Chapter 18 Verse 62 knowledge giver of the Gita tells -‘Arjun! By all means, you go in the refuge of that God, with His grace you will attain eternal peace and Sanatan ultimate abode’. Then your birth and death will not happen.

In Chapter 18 Verse 64 knowledge giver of Gita tells that ‘I will again say the most confidential of all secrets, my utmost mysterious beneficial words to you, listen to these – this Purna Brahm is my definite revered deity i.e., venerated God’.

In Chapter 18 Verse 66 knowledge giver of the Gita tells that ‘Relinquishing all my religious practices in me, you go in the refuge of only that one unique i.e. complete God. I will release you from all the sins. You do not grieve’.

All aforementioned evidence tells about Supreme God which ISKCON is ignorant of.

Let us know the mantra to attain Supreme God told in Gita.

ISKCON does not Know What is the Mantra to Attain Supreme God?

In Gita Ji Chapter 8 Verse 1, Arjun asked ‘Kim Tat Brahm’. Who is that Supreme God who should be worshipped? The answer Kaal gave in Verse 3 of Chapter 8 is that ‘he is Param Akshar Brahm’. He is to be worshipped. He is the divine God.

In Gita Ji Chapter 15 Verse 1 to 4, 16, 17 and in Chapter 18 Verse 62 the knowledge giver of Gita advises to worship some other God and is saying that by His worship only you will attain the ultimate salvation.

In Chapter 15 Verse 17 the concept is made clear that ‘Uttam PurusH tu anya’ ‘Uttam Purush’ is the indication towards that superior God, Param Akshar Brahm who is the origin of the world-like tree and from that root everyone gets nourishment. He is the overall controller.

Gita Chapter 17 Verse 23 states the true salvation mantra of Supreme God which is (Coded).

Om Tat Sat iti nirdesH ‘Brahmane tri-vidhaH smritaH

By chanting it Sacchidanandghan Brahm will be attained and after his attainment birth and death will never happen, eternal abode will be attained. The enlightened saint will decode this mantra.

‘OM’ mantra is of Brahm, ‘TAT’ is of ParBrahm, he is also called Akshar Purush and ‘SAT’ mantra is of Param Akshar Brahm means Supreme God who is the overall controller. While entering in all four worlds does everyone’s nourishment, his name is Kavir Dev.

‘Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare, Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare mantra of ISKCON is nowhere mentioned in the Gita and they claim they follow the way of worship mentioned in Gita, ISKCON completely tells the wrong way of worship. This is a huge trap of Kaal which needs to be understood by devotees. Followers of Lord Krishna should immediately abandon these fake cults and start worshipping according to scriptures so as to get their welfare done.

Also Read: Does Shri Krishan in Bhagavad Gita talk about some other Supreme God?

ISKCON does not Know that Enlightened Saint Will Tell Mantra of Supreme God

In Gita Chapter 2 Verse 17 it is said that ‘consider him to be immortal from whom this whole world is prevailing. No one is capable to destroy this immortal

In Gita Chapter 4 Verse 34 Kaal says that ‘I do not know; search for that Enlightened saint, By prostrating to them, by leaving cunningness, by humbly asking a question that true spiritual leader will give you the knowledge of divine element, that is apart from the knowledge giver of Gita about whom in Chapter 4 Verse 32 is told that all religious sacrifices are told in detail in Sacchidanandghan Brahm’s speech, information about all rituals and activities is there. That is the true spiritual knowledge, and that you go and understand from an enlightened saint.

In Chapter 15 from Verse 1 till 4 this has been made clear that the one who explains the upside-down world-like hanging tree; SeHvedvit’ is the enlightened saint you obtain the true spiritual knowledge from him and after that, the ultimate abode of God should be searched, going where birth and death of soul never happens.

Supreme God KavirDev Himself comes and Himself tells this true spiritual knowledge. He tells His own glory all by Himself. He Himself tells about His creation.

Supreme God Kavir Dev has Himself descended on earth for the welfare of humankind and is playing divine spectacle in the cover of great enlightened sant Rampal Ji Maharaj. All devotees on earth including followers of ISKCON must leave pride aside and aim for their welfare, Identify God, leave arbitrary worship and take refuge soon.

To know the complete identity of a Tatvadarshi saint must read Identification of a True Saint.

Who is Supreme God as per All Holy Scriptures?

Not just pious Gita but other holy scriptures also provide evidence about Who is the Supreme and immortal God? To know details.

Note: Translators of Bhagavad Gita together with ISKCON have done blunders in the translation of Verses of Gita which can be studied in Blunders in Bhagavad Gita Translation.

The true meaning and correct translation of the Bhagavad Gita is done by the great enlightened sant Rampal Ji Maharaj,

ISKCON is Ignorant About Eternal World Satlok

‘Satlok’ means Sanatan place, Sanatan ultimate abode, which is everlasting, which never destroys which is the residence of Param Akshar Purush/Satyapurush/Supreme God. It is called Sachkhand/Satlok in the saint's language. The true worshipper of Almighty, Supreme God after attaining salvation goes there having gone where he never comes back to this deceased world.

ISKCON is totally unaware of true spiritual knowledge due to which they tell folklore. They are absolutely ignorant about Satlok, the immortal abode.


Pious Souls, all these Hindu religion’s Brahmans, teachers, sages, great sages which existed and are in the present times, they were all ignorant. These were called religious teachers but were not familiar with their syllabus. A teacher who is not familiar with his syllabus, not familiar with the content written in curriculum books, then that teacher is useless. That teacher is not correct. He is harmful to students, he is spoiling their life. To date, we have been blindly accepting their knowledge and ignorance as truth, considering them wise. They have drowned us. There is no role of Shri Krishan Ji in the Shrimad Bhagavad Gita, the entire role is of Kaal.

Exact similar conduct, similar behaviour had been of the Hindu teachers till now. ISKCON is one among those fake religious organisations which are preaching wrong hence devotees should wake up and abandon them and do scripture-based worship,

The following is concluded from the all aforementioned evidence

  • ISKCON practices according to Bhagavad Gita but is ignorant about true spiritual knowledge hence telling folklore that Shri Krishna is Supreme God which is a myth.
  • ISKCON is ignorant about the spiritual hierarchy of Gods, and needs to know how the universe was created, and who is the creator? 
  • ISKCON is ignorant about Kshar Purush, Akshar Purush/Param Akshar Purush means Supreme God and Enlightened saint.
  • ISKCON does not know that Brahm Kaal is the knowledge giver of the Gita and not Lord Krishna
  • ISKCON is ignorant that all 21 universes of Brahm Kaal are mortal. Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Goddess Durga and all deities, and creatures take birth and die.
  • Chanting the ‘Hare Krishna’ mantra and worshipping Lord Krishna by ISKCON is an arbitrary practice against injunctions of holy scriptures and hence useless.
  • ISKCON is ignorant about the true salvation mantra to attain Supreme God Kavir Dev.
  • ISKCON is ignorant about Satlok the eternal world

Gita Chapter 18 Verse 53 tells ‘Abandoning egoism, power, arrogance, lust, anger and collection of more than what is needed, free from affection, a peaceful worshipper is worthy of attaining the complete God.

ISKCON and all devotees of Lord Krishna are advised to take facts mentioned in Bhagavad Gita very seriously, leave pride and practice scriptural worship to get their welfare.

Take refuge in great saint Rampal Ji Maharaj who is the enlightened saint and is telling scriptures-based worship with which souls will attain emancipation.