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God Kabir Comes in All the Four Yugas - Evidence in Vedas

Satguru Purush Kabir hain, chaaron yug prvaan Jhoothe guruva mar gaye, ho gaye bhoot masaan

Because of absence of Tatvgyan, devout souls express a doubt that God Kabir, in form of a weaver, has come in Kashi in Vikrami Samvat 1455 (year 1398). How can this (Dhaanak) weaver of Kashi be the Supreme God KavirDev in the Vedas?

In this matter, it is Das's (Sant Rampal Das) request that this same Complete God KavirDev (Supreme God Kabir), even prior to the knowledge of the Vedas, was present in Satlok, and has also Himself appeared in all the four yugas to impart His real knowledge. In Satyug by the name 'Satsukrit'; in Tretayug by name 'Muninder'; in Dwaparyug by the name 'Karunamay', and in Kalyug, appeared by His real name 'KavirDev' (God Kabir). Apart from this, He appears any time by acquiring different forms and after performing His leela (divine act), disappears. God-loving devout souls are unable to recognise the Supreme God who has appeared at that time to perform a divine act because all the so-called Maharishis and saints have described God as formless. In reality, God is in form. He has a visible human-like body. But God's body is not formed of the union of vessels made up of the five elements. It is made up of one element of light. Supreme God appears here whenever He wishes; He never takes birth from a mother because He is the Originator of all.

Supreme God Kabir had Himself appeared in Satyug by name Satsukrit. At that time He had explained the (tatvgyan) true knowledge to Garud ji, Shri Brahma ji, Shri Vishnu ji and Shri Shiv ji etc. He had also tried to explain Tatvgyan to the great sage Shri Manu ji. But Shri Manu ji, not accepting the knowledge of Supreme God to be true, remained firm on the knowledge of the Vedas heard from Shri Brahma ji and on the conclusions of the Vedas derived by him. On the contrary, he started ridiculing Supreme God Satsukrit ji that you are imparting all opposite knowledge. Therefore, he gave Supreme God Satsukrit an alias name Vamdev (the meaning of Vam is opposite; for example, in Hindi the left hand is also known as Vama i.e. Ulta /opposite hand, just as right hand is also known as 'Seedha haath')

In this way, Supreme God KavirDev ji, who had come by Satsukrit name in Satyug, used to explain the real knowledge to the sages and the worshippers of that time. But the sages (Rishis) did not accept it. Instead of 'Satsukrit ji' they started calling Supreme God, Vamdev.

For this reason only, it is mentioned in Yajurved Adhyay 12 Mantra 4 that Vamdev Rishi correctly understood the real knowledge of Yajurved and explained it to others. To understand the knowledge of the Holy Vedas, please think - for example, Yajurved is a holy book. If there is a description about it somewhere in Sanskrit language, where YajuH or Yajum etc words are written, then also it is considered to be pointing towards the holy book Yajurved only. Likewise, the real name of Supreme God is KavirDev; we started calling it only as Kabir Sahib, Kabir Parmeshwar in different-different languages. Many devotees express doubt that how did you prove Kavir as Kabir. From the point of view of grammer, the meaning of KaviH is omniscient (Sarvagya). It is a Das's request that every word has some meaning. As far as the grammer is concerned, language was created first because the speech in the Vedas have been said by God, and grammer was formed later by the Rishis. It can be faulty. In the translation (interpretation of language) of Vedas, grammer is incoherent and contradictory, because the speech in Vedas is mentioned through mantras in couplets. For example, the people around the Palwal city call Palwal as Parwar. If someone says that how have you proved Palwal as Parwar? It is like saying how have you proved Kavir as Kabir. Like, in regional language, Palwal city is called Parwar; similarly, Kavir is called Kabir; God is same. Maharishi Dayanand ji in 'Satyarth Prakash' Samullas 4 on page no. 100 (published from Dayanand Math Dinanagar) has done the meaning of "Devrkama" as "Devar ki Kamna"; by writing a complete 'R' has written (Devr) as (Devar). So, there is no objection or mistake in grammer in writing and saying Kavir as Kavir, and then in a different language as Kabir. The Supreme God is KavirDev; 

This evidence is also in Yajurved Adhyay 29 Mantra 25 and Samved Mantra no. 1400, which is as follows -

Yajurved Adhyay no. 29 Shlok no. 25

Samiddhoadhya manusho durone devo devaanyajasi jaatvedH Aa ch vah mitrmahshchikitvaantvaM dootH Kavirasi prchetaH 25

SamiddhH - adhya - manushH - durone - devH - devaan - yaj - asi - jaatvedH - aa - ch - vah - mitrmahH - chikitvaan - tvam - dootH - Kavir - asi - prchetaH

Translation: (Adhya) Today i.e. in the present time (durone) wickedly in the body-like palace (manushH) the thoughtful persons engrossed in wrong way of worship (samiddhH) the lit fire i.e. the current way of worship opposite to the scriptures which is harmful, in its place (devaan ) of the gods (devH) God (jaatvedH) Supreme God SatPurush's real (yaj ) way of worship (asi) is. (aa) kind (mitrmahH) the Supreme God only who is the real friend of the living being (chikitvaan ) healthy/sound knowledge i.e. the true bhakti (dootH) in the form of a messenger (vah) who brings (ch) and (prchetaH) who imparts (tvam ) Himself (Kavirasi) is KavirDev i.e. is Supreme God Kabir.

Translation: Today i.e. in the present time, the fire, i.e. the harmful way of worship opposite to the scriptures, set wickedly to the body-like palace of the thoughtful persons engrossed in the wrong way of worship, in its place, is the real way of worship of the God of gods, Supreme God SatPurush. The kind Supreme God who is the real friend of a living being and who in the form of a messenger brings and imparts His healthy/sound knowledge i.e. the true bhakti, is Himself KavirDev i.e. is Supreme God Kabir.

Meaning: When the Supreme God appears, at that time all the Rishis and saints, abandoning the injunctions of the scriptures, are guiding the entire devotee community by arbitrary way of worship. At that time, KavirDev i.e. Kabir God Himself comes becoming the messenger of His Tatvgyan i.e. healthy/sound knowledge.

Sankhya 1400 Samved Utarchik Adhyay no. 12 Khand no. 3 Shlok no. 5

Bhadra vastra samanya vasaano mahaan Kavirnivachnani shansan Aa vachyasv chamvoH pooymaano vichakshano jaagrvirdevveetau ||5||

Bhadra – vastra – samanya – vasanH – mahaan′ - Kavir′ - nivachnani – shansan′ - aavachyasv – chamvoH – pooymaanH – vichakshanH – jagrviH – Dev – veetau

Translation: (VichakshanH) Clever people (aavachyasv) have already said through their speeches that do as we preach. Instead of telling the way of worship of the Purna Brahm, those clever people by directing towards the worship of other gods, in place of nectar, (pooymaanH) pus from a boil i.e the worship of others {like, ghost-worship, Pitra-worship, worship of the three gunas (Rajgun-Brahma, Satgun-Vishnu, Tamgun-Shiv Shankar) and worship of Brahm-Kaal} (chamvoH) are respectfully making sip; at that time to end the wrong knowledge opposite to the scriptures (bhadra) the supreme-happiness-giving (mahaan Kavir ) Supreme God Kabir (vastra) in body in an ordinary attire i.e. {the meaning of 'vastra' is 'attire' - in saint language, it is also called 'chola'. Chola means body. Like, if a saint dies, then it is said that Mahatma has left his chola}, (samanya) acquiring another body made up of lighter mass of lights [tejpunj] similar to that of His body in Satyalok (vasaanH) by living like a common man and staying as a guest for a few days in this world (nivachnani) the true knowledge by means of his Shabdavali1 , Kabir vaani etc (shansan ) by explaining (Dev) of the Supreme God (veetau) hidden wealth of Sargun-Nirgun knowledge (jagrviH) awakens/brings awareness about.

Translation: Clever people through their speeches have already instructed that do as we preach. Instead of telling the true path of the way of worship of Purna Brahm, those clever people by directing towards the worship of others, in place of nectar, are respectfully making sip the pus from a boil i.e. worship of others {like, ghost-worship, Pitra-worship, worship of the three gunas (Rajgun-Brahma, Satgun-Vishnu, Tamgun-Shiv Shankar) and worship of Brahm-Kaal}. At that time, to end the wrong knowledge opposite to the scriptures, the Supreme-happiness-giving Supreme God Kabir, acquiring another body made up of lighter masses of lights (tejpunj) similar to His body in Satyalok, appears in a body in an ordinary attire {(vastra) the meaning of 'vastra' is 'attire' - in saint language, it is also called 'chola'. 'Chola' means body. Like, if a saint dies, then it is said that Mahatma has left his chola}, and by living like an ordinary man and staying as a guest for a few days in this world, explaining the true knowledge by means of His shabdavali, Kabir vaani etc, brings awareness about the hidden wealth of the Sargun-Nirgun knowledge of the Supreme God.

Meaning: For example, in Yajurved Adhyay 5 Mantra 1, it is said that 'AgneH TanuH asi' = God has a body. Vishnve Tva Somasya TanuH asi = That Eternal God has another body for nurturing, in which He comes into this world as a guest for a few days. He awakens the God loving souls sleeping in the sleep of ignorance by Tatvgyan (true spiritual knowledge). The same evidence is in this Mantra that Supreme God KavirDev i.e. God Kabir changing His appearance and acquiring appearance of an ordinary man appears on Earth, and "Kavirnivachnaani shansan" i.e. recites Kavir Vaani, by means of which, brings awareness about the Tatvgyan, and the clever men who are called Maharishis at that time, on the basis of false knowledge, in place of the nectar of the scripture-based true sadhna, are respectfully making sip the pus of baseless way of worship i.e. are making others do baseless worship. At that time, Supreme God, by Himself appearing, grants the knowledge of scripture-based way of worship through Tatvgyan (true spiritual knowledge).

Even in the following mantras of the Holy Rigved, the characteristics have been given that when that Supreme God comes to this world for some time to perform a divine act, He acquires the form of a child. At that time, that Supreme God is nurtured by (adhanya dhenavH) maiden cows. When He grows up in a divine way, He utters the Tatvgyan of His attainment and of going to Satlok i.e. of complete salvation through (KavirgirbhiH) Kabir Vaani by means of poems, because of which He is known as a poet. But that KavirDev is Himself the Supreme God who lives in the third abode of salvation, Satlok.

Rigved Mandal 9 Sukt 1 Mantra 9 and Sukt 96 Mantra 17-18

Rigved Mandal 9 Sukt 1 Mantra 9

Abhi imM adhnya ut shreenanti dhenavH shishum′ Sommindray paatve ||9||

Abhi – imm′ - adhnya – ut – shreenanti – dhenavH – shishum′ - somm′ - indray – paatve

Translation: (Ut) Especially (imm) this (shishum ) appeared in child form (somm) of the Supreme Eternal God (indraay) through comforts i.e. development of body through nourishment (paatve) for the development (abhi) completely (adhnya dhenavH) a cow who has never been troubled by a bull i.e. by a maiden cow (shreenanti) is fostered/nurtured.

Translation: This Supreme Eternal God, who has especially appeared in child form, is nurtured by a completely maiden cow (who has never been troubled by a bull) for His development through comforts i.e. development of body through nourishment.

Meaning: When the Supreme Eternal God while performing a divine act, acquiring a child form, appears by Himself, at that time a maiden cow itself gives milk by which Supreme/Complete God is nurtured.

Rigved Mandal 9 Sukt 96 Mantra 17

Shishum jagyaanm hry tam mrjanti shumbhanti vahinmarutH ganen  Kavirgeerbhi kaavyena Kavir sant somH pavitrm atyeti rebhan ||17|| 

Translation: Supreme God (hry shishum ) in the form of a human child (jagyaanm ) appears intentionally and His true spiritual knowledge / Tatvgyan (tam ) at that time (mrjanti) with purity (shumbhanti) utters/expresses (vahin) who blazing in the fire of separation for the attainment of God (marutH) devotees cool like wind (ganen) for the group of (kaavyena) by poetic insight, through poems (pavitrm atyeti) with lot of purity (Kavir Geerbhi) Kavir-vaani/speech i.e. through Kabir Vaani (rebhan ) recites by addressing loudly (Kavir Sant somH) that Eternal God i.e. SatPurush alone in the form of a Saint i.e. a Rishi, is Himself KavirDev. But because of not recognising that God, people start calling Him a Kavi (poet).

Translation: Supreme God intentionally appears in the form of a human child and at that time utters His Tatvgyan / True spiritual knowledge with purity. For the group of devotees cool like wind, blazing in the fire of separation for the attainment of God, He utters poems with poetic insight by calling out loudly Kavir Vaani i.e. Kabir Vaani with a lot of purity. That Eternal God i.e SatPurush alone in the form of a saint i.e. a Rishi is Himself KavirDev. But because of not recognising that God, people start calling Him a Kavi (poet).

Meaning: The narrator of Ved, Brahm, is saying that Supreme God KavirDev by appearing in the form of an extraordinary human child, explains His real, pure knowledge to His hans souls i.e. devout followers by means of His KavirgirbhiH i.e. Kabir Vaani (speech) as a poet by addressing i.e. uttering through poems and proverbs. He Himself is SatPurush Kabir.

Rigved Mandal 9 Sukt 96 Mantra 18

Rishimna ya rishikrit′ swarshaH sahastraneethH padviH kavinam′  Trteeyam′ dhaam mahishH sisha sant′ somH viraajmanu rajti stup′ ||18||

Translation: The narrator of Ved, Brahm, is saying that (ya) the Supreme God, who coming in the form of an extraordinary child (kavinam ) of famous poets (padviH) attaining the title i.e. plays the role of a saint or rishi, that (rishikrt ) composed by the God appeared in the form of a Saint (sahastraneethH) thousands of speeches (rishimna) for the individuals of saintly nature i.e. the devotees (swarshaH) is the provider of happiness equal to that of heaven. (sant somH) appeared in the form of Rishi/Saint, He is Eternal God i.e. SatPurush only, that Complete God (trteeya) third (dhaam) of the lok of salvation i.e. Satyalok (mahishH) very firm Earth (sisha) establishing (anu) after, in a human-like form (stup ) in a dome on a high hillock-like throne (viraajmanu rajti) in a bright material form i.e is seated in an effulgent human-like visible body.

Translation: The narrator of Ved, Brahm, is saying that the Supreme God, who coming in the form of an extraordinary child, attains the title of famous poets i.e. plays the role of a saint or a Rishi (sage), the thousands of speeches composed by that God who has appeared as a saint, are provider of happiness equal to that of heaven to the individuals of saintly nature i.e. to devotees. He, who has appeared in form of a Rishi/Saint is Eternal God i.e. SatPurush only; that Complete God, after establishing the very firm Earth of the third lok of salvation i.e. Satyalok, is seated in a saint form in a dome on a high hillock-like throne in bright material body i.e. in a humanlike effulgent body.

Meaning: It is said in Mantra 17 that KavirDev acquires a child form. Then, He grows up while playing a divine act. Because of describing the Tatvgyan through poems, He attains the position of a poet (kavi) i.e. people start calling Him Kavi; in reality, He is Supreme God Kavir (God Kabir) only. The nectar speech composed by Him is known as Kabir Vaani (KavirgirbhiH i.e. Kavir Vaani/ Speech), which is comforting like heaven to the devotees. That same God establishing the third lok of salvation i.e. Satlok, is seated in form in a dome on a high throne in a bright human-like body.

In this mantra, Satlok has been called the third Lok. Like, one is lok of Brahm which is an area of twenty-one brahmands; second is lok of ParBrahm which is an area of seven sankh brahmands; third is the Ritdhaam i.e. Satlok of Param Akshar Brahm i.e. Purna Brahm.